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Marnen Laibow-Koser ([personal profile] marnen) wrote2007-02-25 05:44 am

This will probably piss off almost everyone reading this, but...

While reading some critical evaluations of whether the Third Wave experiment happened as described, I happened on a page arguing that there were no gas chambers in Nazi death camps. This is not a piece of Holocaust denial -- the writer of the article seems to think that most of the other details of the Holocaust are too well documented to be in any question -- but it does appear to be a well-reasoned, thoughtful job. If anyone can find holes in his arguments, I'd be interested to know what they are.


Update, about 13 hours later: While I'm not withdrawing my post, I'm beginning to think I may have posted too soon. The article appears to have been less well thought out than I originally thought. That's what comes from posting on impulse in the wee hours of the morning...

[identity profile] marnen.livejournal.com 2007-02-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)

Yes, the pursuit of knowledge. Or at least that's why I'm interested in it. It seems that the nature of the Holocaust has become an article of faith, and something of a shibboleth. Either you believe it wholesale or you disbelieve it wholesale, it seems. And that's just plain sloppy scholarship.


As a human being, and as a Jew, I have no desire to belittle the impact of the Holocaust. But as a responsible thinking person, I am bound to consider evidence that comes my way with an open mind. I don't think any purpose is served by constructing sacred cows.

[identity profile] curlyeric.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
No article of history or science should be taken on "Faith", but this is a well researched topic that has been tread upon again and again over the past 60 years by historians and scientists. The idea that there was no gassing at the big 3 death camps is an extraordinary claim; and as we know from philosophy extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and this piece provides no extraordinary evidence.

[identity profile] marnen.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
The existence of the gas chambers is, on the face of it, also an extraordinary claim, which is why I feel that a careful evaluation of the evidence is necessary -- and as you and others pointed out, this is exactly what Lyle didn't do.